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Post by BrianEschen on Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:29 am

Given the looming threat of global warming, what should the government be doing to battle this problem? sunny

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Re: Global Warming

Post by tuubaaku on Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:06 pm

how about we take away the "given" and prove the problem?

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Post by CheeseKing on Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:08 pm

Government should nod and say "We may have a problem here...". Neutral If individual states wish to fight against pollution and other such things, that's fine. If we manage to fill the two houses of Congress with people that want something to happen and we happen to have a like-minded president, then I suppose they can make an ammendment... otherwise, it sounds like a personal problem. The hearts of men are wicked and desperately evil, so they don't care about the environment God gave us to rule over. If our nation is to become a wasteland like the Middle-east, so be it. Perhaps we'll learn a lesson.

As far as Global Warming is concerned, I'd vote for a government that would whistle and twiddle their thumbs until the issue of global cooling was brought forth 30 years later. geek
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Re: Global Warming

Post by BrianEschen on Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:24 pm

Wait a second . . . the news people all say global warming is a problem. Even my State Assemblymember is holding a forum to discuss the issue and try to sell her legislation to "solve" this "problem."
Are you suggesting that global warming is unproven? That is considered blasphemy in todays culture. So why is global warming not a problem? I was pretty hot last summer after all.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by tuubaaku on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:22 pm

I'm a bit more of a mindset that global warming activists need to prove to me that there is a problem, not that I have to prove there's not a problem...

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Re: Global Warming

Post by BrianEschen on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:46 pm

Well, if you look at this graph, clearly the temperatures are and have been rising over the last 80 or so years. Is this not global warming? What about those poor cuddly polar bears that will go extinct because the polar ice cap is melting? Sad

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Post by tuubaaku on Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:21 pm

such loaded questions, and you're trying to make me explain why global warming isn't a problem which I don't really want to do... So I'll ask you why I should be worried about the temperature change shown on that graph. I'll also ask you to explain how that graph shows that the poor cuddly bears will go extinct because the polar ice caps are melting.

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Post by jeschen on Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:28 pm

tuubaaku wrote:I'll also ask you to explain how that graph shows that the poor cuddly bears will go extinct because the polar ice caps are melting.

Have you ever seen that Planet Earth video (put out by BBC)? The cute polar bears have less and less ice to hunt on every year...and they have to swim a lot more to get where they're going...and they get really really hungry...and then they have to attack a walrus and they get speared by the tusk and die...and then my daughter starts crying. What are you going to do about my daughter? I think you need to go buy a hybrid car so my daughter won't cry. Sad

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Re: Global Warming

Post by CheeseKing on Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:14 am

lol!

Well, i'll tell you what. If our Polar pals run out of ice, they can move in with me. We have a room available. Now hold on. They have to swim from one place to another. How bad is that? They actually have to exert energy? If I had to swim everywhere, I would really be in shape (or I might get lazy and have others swim around for me).

I saw an Al Gore video once. It wasn't very convincing. There is too much they can't prove. I think I will go about my life as usual. If someone wants to make better fuels, they can go right ahead. I am fine with government actions, as long as they don't limit my rights or force me to pay taxes on the environment. If they come to me and ask if i'd like to donate to a wild life fund, I might consider. Stealing (taxes) should not be tolerated, unless its being used for very specific things like the military (if we are in a Just war).
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Re: Global Warming

Post by HokieAirman on Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:01 pm

Wait a second.........didn't polar bears evolve from grizzly bears??? If that's the case, and all the polar bears are forced to escape the polar ice caps to survive, or die.......won't they just evolve back into grizzly bears and eat salmon instead of seals? I know the seals will be happier. And if it's warmer, won't it keep the seal population down? So the question is this...why do we need polar bears in the first place? Question

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Re: Global Warming

Post by CheeseKing on Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:36 am

I hear the fathers kill the children too, if they get the chance. Bad role models. Yes, let them devolve back into Grizzly bears and all our problems will be solved.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Legolas Greenleaf on Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:07 pm

CheeseKing wrote: If someone wants to make better fuels, they can go right ahead. I am fine with government actions, as long as they don't limit my rights or force me to pay taxes on the environment.


The problem is that corn ethanol is not better and it's raising the price of everything. Price or corn goes up making the farmers pay more for cow food, so they charge more for cheese, butter, and milk. Anything that uses those goes up in price etc. Besides that there's even a question as to whether oil is really not being "produced" underground.

Global warming isn't believed by the vast majority of scientists. It is all simply a plot to give the government more power. Sometimes the arrogance of humans actually amazes me. To think that we could actually change the weather! Rolling Eyes Besides all that who says global warming is bad? Most likely before the fall the earth was like big greenhouse. We just had an ice age a few thousand years ago.
Anyways now you know what I think of global warming. By the way I think it's called global climate change since we seem to have lost in 1 year the celsius degree we gained. scratch
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Re: Global Warming

Post by CheeseKing on Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:59 pm

I would prefer to get my dairy products at lower prices, but i'll do what I have to do. It is a fact that cars can be made more efficient and can run many more miles per gallon, but its cheaper for Auto companies and to produce less-efficient cars. I suppose we could turn to greater efficiency with what we have. I have little education in either subject, so i'll just leave that up to you guys.

(to stay on topic) global warming my middle toe. Its freezing over here! Sad
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Re: Global Warming

Post by BrianEschen on Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:06 pm

For all you "naysayers" out there I have THE most convincing video as to the problems associated with global warming. Check out *edit* to be explained later . . .

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Re: Global Warming

Post by YoungStonewall on Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:29 am

All politics aside and if you believe the "research" and the "facts", one points remains:

The ultimate goal of the "global warming" crowd is not unbiblical:

Better stewardship of this earth.

Their motivation is wrong as well as their methods, but their goal is admirable.
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