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Re: Palin and Complimentarianism

Post by 89whiteandnerdy on Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:54 pm

I agree with tuubaaku - no candidate is going to agree with us on every point. People are diverse and have different ideas. If we all just voted for someone we agree with completely, hardly anybody would vote.
Now, when it's a matter of moral issues that the candidate has or supports, that is a different matter entirely. But there is a difference between not supporting blatant sin and not supporting someone just because you disagree on a few points that could be considered "gray areas".

I hope that makes sense, I'm dog-tired right now and my brain is malfunctioning. Smile

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Post by tuubaaku on Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:13 pm

well, I don't think abortion is much of gray area. Smile however, wouldn't it be better to have McCain, who would support abortion less than Obama, who is radically pro-abortion in every way possible? I think there are other areas where McCain would be better than Obama, too.

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Post by BrianEschen on Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:48 pm

tuubaaku wrote:I guess I don't see a vote as condoning everything the candidate stands for, but more of trying to choose the best person available (maybe more pragmatic than idealistic?). Why is that view of voting wrong?

It depends on what the stands are that you do not agree with. I reject the claim that the Bible presents no guidelines for voting. If God has given us the blessing of voting (which He has), then it would be wise for us to follow His standards for voting. For this reason, I take passages such as Exodus 18, Deuteronomy 1 and 17, and Romans 13 as directing the Christian how to vote. To the degree we ignore these, we invite God's judgment.

In summary, since God has not left us to fumble in the dark while voting, but has clearly set forth the requirements both for civil office (see Exodus and Deuteronomy) and the kinds of laws that should be passed (see Romans 13), we should vote accordingly. It is not a matter of agreeing with a candidate in everything, but in agreeing with God about who is a qualified candidate. I could be wrong, but I have not yet been shown a sound biblical argument to the contrary.
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Post by tuubaaku on Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:53 pm

I see great principles in these passages for how to vote - however, I don't really see the principle of not voting at all and just letting the rest of society decide, if there are no suitable candidates to vote for. Maybe we'll just have to disagree on this one.

Out of curiosity, if you don't mind me asking, how often do you put this into practice and not vote in a race?

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Post by BrianEschen on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:34 am

tuubaaku wrote:I see great principles in these passages for how to vote - however, I don't really see the principle of not voting at all and just letting the rest of society decide, if there are no suitable candidates to vote for.
My reasoning goes like this . . . 1) God has told us the kind of ruler we should vote for 2) If we vote for someone who is contrary to this, it is disobedience to God.

tuubaaku wrote:Out of curiosity, if you don't mind me asking, how often do you put this into practice and not vote in a race?
I never have to in California. It sounds like this may be an issue for some in North Carolina (not to be confused with the South at large) Wink

tuubaaku wrote:Maybe we'll just have to disagree on this one.
I disagree with my best friend on this one. You are in good company. Smile
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