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conservative vote
I've had a concern ever since there was first discussion about the upcoming presidential election, and I wanted to discuss it. It seems to me that the conservative vote will be split this coming election. It's happened in the past, and I think it's a valid concern now. What the conservatives need is unity, we need to unite behind one candidate and push him all the way to the White House. Otherwise the Democrats will take the election, and we could end up with either Queen Jezebel or a Muslim in the White House.
Comments?
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Re: conservative vote
Well, among friends and family, pull for the man best suited for office, a God-fearing christian that will hold to the Constitution. Any of the republicans running could do better than Jezebel or Muhammad. All my reformed friends are pulling for Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. I think we should choose one or the other and run with him. The non christians and luke warmers may hold for someone else. We need to find the ideal candidate and put firey support behind them, advertising and telling everyone about them.
Re: conservative vote
I am a dedicated Christian and I believe Mike Huckabee would be the best choice for our country... My reasons are this:
1. He is a dedicated Christian
2. He has many morals and values in his life
3. He focuses on Family life
4. He has PROVED himself as leader
5. He would have majority conservative vote
6. much more...
1. He is a dedicated Christian
2. He has many morals and values in his life
3. He focuses on Family life
4. He has PROVED himself as leader
5. He would have majority conservative vote
6. much more...
Re: conservative vote
Ditto to what addo1 says.
I agree, Josiah. We really need that unity. If the vote is split, I don't see how we can get a Republican in the office. I don't know if any of you read the article on World Net Daily (if anyone wants to read it, let me know and I'll find the link). The author made an excellent point - if the conservative vote splits in the general election between the Rep. candidate and a third party candidate, it would be an easy win for the Dem. candidate. We should be willing to come behind the Rep. candidate - if it comes down to Rudy vs. Hillary, Rudy would get my vote every time. I think it should really come down to whether you are going to vote for the Democratic nominee or the Republican nominee, and not consider a third party candidate.
As CheeseKing said, we should really choose Huckabee or Ron Paul. However, I agree most with Huckabee (I disagree with Ron Paul's foreign policy. Other than that, he's a great guy!). Huckabee is also leading in the polls right now in Iowa and South Carolina. He appears to have a majority of the support. Right now, I really don't think Ron Paul has a chance of getting the Republican nomination.
I agree, Josiah. We really need that unity. If the vote is split, I don't see how we can get a Republican in the office. I don't know if any of you read the article on World Net Daily (if anyone wants to read it, let me know and I'll find the link). The author made an excellent point - if the conservative vote splits in the general election between the Rep. candidate and a third party candidate, it would be an easy win for the Dem. candidate. We should be willing to come behind the Rep. candidate - if it comes down to Rudy vs. Hillary, Rudy would get my vote every time. I think it should really come down to whether you are going to vote for the Democratic nominee or the Republican nominee, and not consider a third party candidate.
As CheeseKing said, we should really choose Huckabee or Ron Paul. However, I agree most with Huckabee (I disagree with Ron Paul's foreign policy. Other than that, he's a great guy!). Huckabee is also leading in the polls right now in Iowa and South Carolina. He appears to have a majority of the support. Right now, I really don't think Ron Paul has a chance of getting the Republican nomination.
Re: conservative vote
As ethical christians you must all vote your conscience NOT who is electable.
"...for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe." Martin Luther
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"...for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe." Martin Luther
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Re: conservative vote
After further research I would have no problem whatsoever voting for Mike Huckabee, I think he would make a great president.
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Re: conservative vote
From the very limited material I have read on the candidates I think I agree most with Ron Paul. I plan to vote for Ron Paul in the primary. However if Mike Huckabee was the republican nominee. I would even vote Mitt Romney if it was him or someone else. I plan tentatively to vote for the republican candidate.
However, I read someone saying they'd vote Rudy vs. Hillary. I personally could never vote for that creep. I would almost rather vote democrat. If that were the choice I would vote other or not at all.
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However, I read someone saying they'd vote Rudy vs. Hillary. I personally could never vote for that creep. I would almost rather vote democrat. If that were the choice I would vote other or not at all.
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Re: conservative vote
I'd probably vote for Huckabee too if he believed in the rule of law.
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Aye, the most solid of any candidate is Ron Paul and I may vote for him. If you can convince Huckabee to change his healthcare policy, I might reconsider .
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I definitely agree that the conservatives need to group together. The fact is, we are NEVER going to get a president we agree with 100%. So there are always things they think that we aren't going to like. And there are always going to be things we find out after they become president, most of the time things we don't like. If the conservatives are split between Huckabee and Paul, then the more liberal repulicans will probably get their pick, probably Rudy. So we need to stop looking for the perfect canidate—there isn't any—and decide who has the best chance. Not that you should vote someone in who would be in favour of abortion, but close enough to your own views that we get him rather than someone terrible. Isn't it better to get someone you agree with on most things (the imporant things such as Homosexuality, abortion, etc) than get stuck over small things?
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Amen! We all need to just vote for Ron Paul. He is the perfect match.
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TheWylff wrote:I definitely agree that the conservatives need to group together. The fact is, we are NEVER going to get a president we agree with 100%. So there are always things they think that we aren't going to like. And there are always going to be things we find out after they become president, most of the time things we don't like. If the conservatives are split between Huckabee and Paul, then the more liberal repulicans will probably get their pick, probably Rudy. So we need to stop looking for the perfect canidate—there isn't any—and decide who has the best chance. Not that you should vote someone in who would be in favour of abortion, but close enough to your own views that we get him rather than someone terrible. Isn't it better to get someone you agree with on most things (the imporant things such as Homosexuality, abortion, etc) than get stuck over small things?
~Wylff
That pretty much sums up my view on the matter. If the conservative vote is split, what we are going to end up with is the same thing we ran into back when Bill Clinton was running for President - the Democrats will walk away with an easy victory because we have become divided.
Re: conservative vote
We will be defeated unless we give up our conservative values. So what's the choice we're left with? A catch 22. Go with a moderate liberal or vote our opinion and watch the ship sink?
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Re: conservative vote
Just Me wrote:We will be defeated unless we give up our conservative values. So what's the choice we're left with? A catch 22. Go with a moderate liberal or vote our opinion and watch the ship sink?
You're missing something here. The only reason we may be defeated is if people give up their conservative values. If we as the conservative voters are united, and stand on our convictions, we will have the victory. If we all voted by our consciences instead of by who is electable, the right man would make it into office.
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If we all really voted for who we morally thought would be the right person, we probably shouldn't even register for a party, since even Republicans don't vote along the Christian lines they profess to support. We should all register independant, or nothing at all and then actually do the research across the party lines to pick our individaul canadite.
Of couse, the likelyhood of that happening is about the same as people buying private health insurance on their own.... but that's another converstation all together.
Of couse, the likelyhood of that happening is about the same as people buying private health insurance on their own.... but that's another converstation all together.
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Re: conservative vote
Just Me wrote:If we all really voted for who we morally thought would be the right person, we probably shouldn't even register for a party, since even Republicans don't vote along the Christian lines they profess to support. We should all register independant, or nothing at all and then actually do the research across the party lines to pick our individaul canadite.
Of couse, the likelyhood of that happening is about the same as people buying private health insurance on their own.... but that's another converstation all together.
We can't focus on likelihoods or probabilities. God has never left the results up to us. Obedience is ours, He can and does handle the results just fine. I for one will not speed the decay of society with complicity. I will not take part in the unfruitful deeds of darkness but rather expose them. I would argue (scripturally I hope) that to compromise with the world is to hide our light under a bushel. Where is the distinction or the offer of a solution if we look just like the world? Where is the hope in that? The gospel IS the power of God unto salvation. It will not be defeated and the resulting fruit of that WILL be a reformed society. I'll take the winning side. I'll take the right side.
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